I called Smith to verify the information provided by Alveeta Treon about Oswald's alleged call to John Hurt. Smith said he cannot now remember the year of his conversation with Mrs. Treon. But he said it occurred one night when he was having dinner with the Treons in Springfield. He had helped the Treons move from Dallas to Springfield in 1965. As they reminisced about that trip their conversation turned to the events surrounding the assassination. At that time Mrs. Treon said she had something of interest and produced the telephone call slip. Smith remembers that it was in the name of Oswald; he was tryiing to call a man named "Hurts" in Raleigh, North Carolina. The slip had two numbers. Smith said he could only remember one, 833-1253.

         Smith said he remembers Treon telling him that on the night of November 23, 1963 she went into the Dallas City Hall switchboard room early to relieve the woman before her. When Oswald came on and tried to place the call, the other woman wrote the information down. However, she became "flustered" and disconnected Oswald's line, so the call never went through. After that woman left, Mrs. Treon got the slip from the waste basket and kept it. Smith said he does not recall Mrs. Treon telling him she had actually heard Oswald herself; he gave as his reason the fact that Mrs. Treon had not yet actually relieved the other woman.

         Smith said that soon after his dinner conversation with Mrs. Treon, he thought the information might be important and turned it over to Sheriff Owen of Springfield. Smith said that about a week later, a man named Ian Calder or Caldwell contacted him about the information. He said Calder was a newspaper writer from New Jersey, and he has since seen stories by Calder in the press.

         Smith said she was also contacted at this time by two other men; he does not know if they were from the F.B.I. or any government agency. He said they merely listened to the information he had on the John hurt call. Smith said it was at the time of the Garrison investigation and the men mentioned that they had "picked up" Shaw and "the Hurts." Smith said the two men described the Hurts as being an older and a younger man. He said the younger man would not talk at all and that the older man had an alibi, presemably for the assassination. Smith said that was the only information the two men gave him about the case. Smith said he once thought about contacting Garrison with his information, but never did because of all of the problems that case seemed to have.

         Smith said that sometime later he was contacted by an ex-con named Tommie Henderson ("Garbage Mouth"). Smith said he knew Henderson from working at the medical center at the federal penitentiary in Springfield. He said Henderson related a story about being an assassin for the Mafia. Henderson said he had been paid $10,000 before the JFK assassination and another $10,000 after. Henderson claimed Oswald didn't fire a shot. At the time Henderson was also tryiing to sell Smith a camera. Smith contacted Sheriff Owen and told him Henderson was in the area and "hot", but he was never apprehended.

         Smith said he retired from the records office at the penitentiary in Springfield in 1965. After that he worked for the U.S. Marshal's Office for three or four years.

         Smith said he cannot remember any other details related to the Alveeta Treon incident. He said he assumes the Sheriff's Office has a file on the information he gave them